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Post by debilyn on Jul 29, 2014 16:40:38 GMT
Okay, now that I've finally completed my filler for OTL, I can read Jestress'. This gives a little insight into where I think Lee's head is at during the moments just after Amanda's "Not this time, buster," and on and off through the evening. This is my idea of why Lee felt he needed that "no-shop-talk" dinner with Amanda. Hope you enjoy. Welcome to Normal
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Post by debilyn on Jul 29, 2014 17:26:19 GMT
Yay, Jestress! Great fanfic! I'm glad you added the second chapter. It added so much to the story.
It seems we both hit the story from a little different angle. How cool is that? It's so much fun to be able to fill in the story in so many different ways. That's what I like about SMK and its fans. We all have so many different thoughts. And, thanks to Iswod and Jenbo we have a couple other places to do just that!
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Post by jestress on Jul 30, 2014 1:55:38 GMT
Yay, Jestress! Great fanfic! I'm glad you added the second chapter. It added so much to the story. It seems we both hit the story from a little different angle. How cool is that? It's so much fun to be able to fill in the story in so many different ways. That's what I like about SMK and its fans. We all have so many different thoughts. And, thanks to Iswod and Jenbo we have a couple other places to do just that! Thanks! I was going to mention here that I added the second chapter, but I was tired last night. Seems like people have found it anyway. I just finished reading your story, and I like it. We had a little different take on the story, although there were some similarities. I noticed that you put in a bit about Lee's hesitancy to discuss his real work with Leslie also. It was kind of implied in the original episode with Lee saying that Leslie could "guess" what he does, but both of us kind of pointed it out in our stories. I liked it that you included more backstory for how Lee met Leslie. I'm also glad that you added in Leslie's point of view. It was nice seeing the evening from different viewpoints, and I've been wondering what Leslie's thoughts were about Lee's mysterious phone call and sudden departure from dinner. Hope you guys liked the MBTI reference in my story. With the on-going debate, I couldn't resist. My beta says it would be cool if I added something about Dotty later asking Lee some personality type questions and being happy because he's the right type. I say that being Lee automatically makes him the right type.
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Post by learjet on Jul 30, 2014 8:28:40 GMT
Okay, now that I've finally completed my filler for OTL, I can read Jestress'. This gives a little insight into where I think Lee's head is at during the moments just after Amanda's "Not this time, buster," and on and off through the evening. This is my idea of why Lee felt he needed that "no-shop-talk" dinner with Amanda. Hope you enjoy. Welcome to NormalLoved your story, Debilyn! I rationed myself to one paragraph at a time during my work day - a great motivator to do a chunk of work for a reward . I enjoyed how you added Leslie's use of French words every now and again. Reminded me of how much this irritated me during the actual episode. Considering how much I dislike Leslie, I think you did a great job in making her a remarkably sympathetic character (ditto for Francine). As always, I love the insight in Lee's thoughts and how they develop Rereading Jestress' first chapter and reading the second chapter will be tonight's pre-bed treat (with some chocolate...)
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Post by debilyn on Jul 30, 2014 12:43:08 GMT
Thanks, Jestress and Learjet. It was something I'd been meaning to write for some time, but kept adding bits and pieces to over a very long time. I've always kinda felt sorry for Leslie, since she obviously didn't know Lee was "already taken." I did like the MBTI reference, Jestress, and thought it was a nice tie-in with what folks had been discussing here. Dotty is always a fun character, and I've thought about exploring her a bit, but all I have are a few vague notes and no real ideas. After taking writing classes this year, I've got lots of ideas, but not many fanfic-related. It wasn't easy to get back and finish this one, but I couldn't let it sit around any longer - it was staring at me, daring me to finish it.
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Post by jestress on Jul 30, 2014 14:24:21 GMT
Thanks, Jestress and Learjet. It was something I'd been meaning to write for some time, but kept adding bits and pieces to over a very long time. I've always kinda felt sorry for Leslie, since she obviously didn't know Lee was "already taken." I know the feeling! And you're right about Leslie, it's not her fault that she didn't know Lee was "taken." When they first started seeing each other, I don't think Lee knew it either, although I think by the end of the episode, he kind of does.
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Post by debilyn on Jul 30, 2014 17:42:09 GMT
Yep!
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Post by learjet on Jul 30, 2014 23:03:26 GMT
I was going to mention here that I added the second chapter, but I was tired last night. Seems like people have found it anyway. I just finished reading your story, and I like it. We had a little different take on the story, although there were some similarities. I noticed that you put in a bit about Lee's hesitancy to discuss his real work with Leslie also. It was kind of implied in the original episode with Lee saying that Leslie could "guess" what he does, but both of us kind of pointed it out in our stories. I liked it that you included more backstory for how Lee met Leslie. I'm also glad that you added in Leslie's point of view. It was nice seeing the evening from different viewpoints, and I've been wondering what Leslie's thoughts were about Lee's mysterious phone call and sudden departure from dinner. Hope you guys liked the MBTI reference in my story. With the on-going debate, I couldn't resist. My beta says it would be cool if I added something about Dotty later asking Lee some personality type questions and being happy because he's the right type. I say that being Lee automatically makes him the right type. Greeting Jestress. I had a lovely pre-bed read of your story last night (sadly the chocolate got finished before I started the story ) I had read chapter 1 before but I loved the 'you need to eat a good breakfast' vs 'you need to have a good dinner so you sleep' marital feel at the end of the first chapter, esp when it tied in with the assumption of the shop assistant that they were married - made me feel all warm and fuzzy - as did the part about Lee realising he loves Amanda. Also enjoyed that you put some of yourself into the stories with the allusions about games. Must be fun to be able to do that. Just loved the MBTI references. So you think Amanda is an F Iwith a chunk of T thrown in) and Lee is a T? Anyway the whole Dotty going to a personality course cracked me up (I think my husband thought I had finally lost it because I suddenly started laughing loudly!) Have you thought about writing the two chapters (or at least the 2nd chapter) from Amanda's point of view?
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Post by jestress on Jul 31, 2014 3:28:31 GMT
Greeting Jestress. I had a lovely pre-bed read of your story last night (sadly the chocolate got finished before I started the story ) I had read chapter 1 before but I loved the 'you need to eat a good breakfast' vs 'you need to have a good dinner so you sleep' marital feel at the end of the first chapter, esp when it tied in with the assumption of the shop assistant that they were married - made me feel all warm and fuzzy - as did the part about Lee realising he loves Amanda. Also enjoyed that you put some of yourself into the stories with the allusions about games. Must be fun to be able to do that. Just loved the MBTI references. So you think Amanda is an F Iwith a chunk of T thrown in) and Lee is a T? Anyway the whole Dotty going to a personality course cracked me up (I think my husband thought I had finally lost it because I suddenly started laughing loudly!) Have you thought about writing the two chapters (or at least the 2nd chapter) from Amanda's point of view? Glad you liked the story! I'm especially glad you liked the breakfast vs. dinner part. That was the kind of feel I was hoping it would have. I really liked that line of Lee's in the original episode, after Amanda declares that she's going to help Elizabeth, when he says that she has "that look." Lee and Amanda really know each other very well by that point, although Lee's being dense and distracted through most of the episode. I thought that after things calmed down a bit, Lee would stop to think just how well he really does know Amanda and how many of her usual little signs that he missed, and also how worried about her he was and how much he really cares. Lee actually has a pretty good memory, and I've noticed that sometimes in episodes, he pulls up memories of things that Amanda said just in passing while they're talking/arguing about something else or while other chaotic things are going on and ask her about them or do something else that shows that he was paying attention. So, I had him doing that while he was worrying about Amanda during his dinner with Leslie. The games and the MBTI references were part of me trying to think of things for Lee and Amanda to talk about since they weren't supposed to talk about work, and it was just fun to be able to throw stuff in that I knew other people would recognize. I'm not completely sure what types I think Lee and Amanda are, but I do have the sense that Amanda is more of an F than Lee is. She pays more attention to people's feelings than he does, and she often describes things in terms of how people feel, like in Fearless Dotty, where she talks about people getting "lost" at the Agency because everyone is caught up in the spy game. Dotty's a fun character, and if anyone in the series took a class like that, I think it would be her (especially with handsome gentlemen involved ). I think Dotty's the type who would be willing to try just about anything that sounded interesting (again, especially if there are handsome gentlemen involved ). Somebody else did ask if I would write the dinner scene from Amanda's viewpoint. Actually, it's kind of funny, because I was originally thinking of writing that from her viewpoint, but then I decided to stick with Lee. I have the feeling that this could turn into the fic that refused to end. Speaking of which, I meant to ask Debilyn, are you going to add more to your filler story? I don't want to spoil too much for people who haven't read it, but there's room for it to continue since Lee hasn't completely ended things with Leslie. I'd like to see their relationship resolve, especially from Leslie's point of view.
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Post by laura on Jul 31, 2014 4:54:29 GMT
I really loved both Debilyn's and Jestress' fillers for OTL. I vote for at least one additional chapter in both of their stories. Debilyn I thought that it was absolutely wonderful that you made Leslie likeable. There is no doubt in my mind that Lee's behavior, "I am ready to try normal but just not you Amanda." cast a bad light on Leslie. Looking at her without prejudice, I see a woman with refined manners. Under other circumstances I could see a friendship bloom between her and Amanda. I would like to see a chapter with her POV.
Jestress. I would very much like to see Amanda's POV of the no shop talk dinner.
Two stories that don't want to be finished. Wonderful!
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Post by debilyn on Jul 31, 2014 12:51:19 GMT
Thanks, Laura. Glad you enjoyed it. As to adding more to my fanfic - I'm thinking about it. I've been asked to tell it from Amanda's point of view, too. I'm not promising anything, because if I write something I don't like, I don't share. On a serious note, I tend to hold stories in my head until they gel enough to get a good portion on paper. Then I flesh out the story, polish it a bit, and let it set for a couple of days to see if it's done, needs work, or what. I've scrapped a few stories over the years because I just don't feel they do a character justice. If I do add a chapter, though, I'll be sure to let folks know.
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Post by learjet on Sept 18, 2014 12:43:34 GMT
morley when are we going see your stories for season 2? Missing their regular arrival in my inbox!
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Post by morley on Sept 19, 2014 1:28:29 GMT
I keep asking myself the same thing. I was just getting myself up to speed about where I left poor Lee and Amanda. I have them up to Murder Between Friends and I have to write VM. Then BJo and I can go over all of the season 2 stories for continuity. After that I will have all of season 2 to publish one at a time while I work on season 3. Getting into UN on the blog is getting my juices flowing again. We had a nice summer, but there were so many different things going on that I would find myself falling asleep when I usually had time to write. The past few weeks we have been trying to get back into the swing of our regularly scheduled academic year. But I have a goal of writing VM this week.
Its coming, I promise...
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Post by learjet on Sept 19, 2014 3:36:59 GMT
Well, I'm looking forward to reading more of your work, Morley ,and I'm sure I'm not the only one so please keep at it!
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Post by KC on Sept 19, 2014 4:04:36 GMT
Yep, I'm waiting with bated breath, too, Morley! Waiting... Waiting... ... Still waiting... (Too impatient? Never!)
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