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Post by jule on Jan 9, 2014 2:18:37 GMT
Morley mentioned in passing, "I think I use "crazy" and it seems like you have your own supply, huh, Jule?" Who me???! Just because the rabbit hole has become a second home?!?! And that I live in middle earth, go to hogwarts for my wizard education, and spend a lot of time mooning over a man who doesn't exist??!?! I be fine *grins maniacally as she heads back to JWWM chocolate in hand*
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Post by morley on Jan 9, 2014 2:25:24 GMT
To Creaturecuddler and Kiwismh: The rose thing doesn't pose a problem for me. Yes Amanda hands Lee a rose in OTL. He just smiles at her right? He doesn't take a deep sniff of it or anything. Knowing Lee's ability to deny emotional triggers and not talk about things that are emotionally sensitive (especially when he is busy trying to hide the fact that he is trying to date someone even though he is "falling" for Amanda) it doesn't surprise me that he doesn't yell "get that thing away from me, I hate roses!" He is more forthcoming in Wizard because of the nature of the circumstance in that particular episode, and actually I think the confession about the roses is really a special thing between he and Amanda as is his gift of roses to her at the end. I am sure that through out his very surface style dating life some woman has presented a rose to him in one way or another. I bet he has learned to tolerate it, but he has never let anyone else know why he hates them. Until Amanda in Wizard. And there begins the true end of the denial. Yay!!!
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Post by morley on Jan 9, 2014 2:27:23 GMT
Morley mentioned in passing, "I think I use "crazy" and it seems like you have your own supply, huh, Jule?" Who me???! Just because the rabbit hole has become a second home?!?! And that I live in middle earth, go to hogwarts for my wizard education, and spend a lot of time mooning over a man who doesn't exist??!?! I be fine *grins maniacally as she heads back to JWWM chocolate in hand* All I can say is that I am in good company. Who knew that Middle Eath and SMKland were connected. I love it!!!
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Post by iwsod on Jan 9, 2014 2:58:35 GMT
Morley mentioned in passing, "I think I use "crazy" and it seems like you have your own supply, huh, Jule?" Who me???! Just because the rabbit hole has become a second home?!?! And that I live in middle earth, go to hogwarts for my wizard education, and spend a lot of time mooning over a man who doesn't exist??!?! I be fine *grins maniacally as she heads back to JWWM chocolate in hand* Yeah.. Jule.. Umm.. I'm not following.. umm.. you sound normal to me!
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Post by jule on Jan 9, 2014 3:18:37 GMT
Morley mentioned in passing, "I think I use "crazy" and it seems like you have your own supply, huh, Jule?" Who me???! Just because the rabbit hole has become a second home?!?! And that I live in middle earth, go to hogwarts for my wizard education, and spend a lot of time mooning over a man who doesn't exist??!?! I be fine *grins maniacally as she heads back to JWWM chocolate in hand* Yeah.. Jule.. Umm.. I'm not following.. umm.. you sound normal to me! ROFL! Says the EE*who, yes, is to be excoriated and flogged, ie with chocolate, wine and Lee, for her role in the case of the rabbit hole proliferation! *goes back to finding where those doors in Billy's office lead* (*Enabler Extrodinaire)
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Post by iwsod on Jan 9, 2014 3:22:47 GMT
eek! I am sooo busted!
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Post by morley on Jan 9, 2014 3:35:13 GMT
Most definitely Good company!!!
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Post by creaturecuddler on Jan 9, 2014 13:10:01 GMT
Yeah, I can buy what Morley says about the rose. I didn't go back and watch that scene in detail, I just remembered it. I am sure Lee has been in contact with roses in the 10 years since Dorothy's death and would have learned to control that response. I always thought it was great progress on Lee's part the way he opened up to Amanda about Dorothy and why he didn't like Roses in Oz. Showed me he was ready for something real with her that he could be that vulnerable with her. I actually didn't remember if she was just holding the rose in OTL,or as someone had said on youtube awhile ago he had handed her the rose. That's what confused me. Like I said I didn't go back and watch the scene. I find that episode hard to get through and probably won't watch it again until we get to it over at just walk with me.
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Post by BJo on Jan 9, 2014 14:38:39 GMT
Wow! Lots of S3 discussion going on over here! I'm excited that we are so close to that season. I've just read (well, sometimes skimmed) this thread and my head is spinning. So I'll have to be brief. I only have two thoughts anyway which are somewhat repetitive, but I'll add while I'm here. 1 - just watched ACAct the other day and for me it fits better earlier in S2 before all the emotional stuff. In fact I could see it coming before all the Europe episodes - even a season premiere. For me I think I can follow along with and put into order the easiest Amanda's professional growth. She is so incompetent in ACA that the earlier it is for me the better. 2 - I used to think like creaturecuddler - actually I still do - in that ALLA had to come before OTL because of the whole Alan storyline and what creaturecuddler said. But as I read on, I can see why you changed your mind (Morley has a way of doing the same thing to me too) and I'm now in the camp of being able to agree with ALLA coming later. Maybe one of these days I'll do a more in-depth study of Amanda's professional growth on the show and how I see it impacting her and Lee and do a post or two. For some reason I can't get past the aspect of the story - maybe it's because it is related to one of the few stakes I've got in the ground about these two. But I'll leave it at that until we get there.
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Post by iwsod on Jan 10, 2014 9:10:48 GMT
Oh cool thanks for addressing the rose creaturecuddler and Morley! mmm I hear ya BJo! A class act is just.. ugh! BJo Amanda's professional growth is a very important part of the story for me too - I'm right there with you!! maybe together we'll be able to sort this all out to our satisfaction I think how you like to order OTL and ALLA depends on how you interpret the ending of OTL.. at least this is my guess - I can't wait to discuss this all more fully on the blog soon.. I am really looking forward to watching these episodes again and rediscovering them! Unless someone gives me an excellent reason not to ( ) I will blog in Morley's order.. which a number of us are liking - and at the start of season 3 I'll list for everyone on JWWM the order we'll be doing. Sooo exciting!! we are nearly there!!! Kiwismh - it's going to be fun exploring this together soon- I've never sat down and tried to figure out the order of season three either.. so this is all new to me! Byeee for now!
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Post by creaturecuddler on Jan 10, 2014 12:44:01 GMT
Glad, IWSOD, you are going to do the blog In Morley's order. I think it what works the best. And just to add another reason I am now convinced ALLA should come after OTL is I did break down and look at those episodes a little more, you don't see the Q bureau in OTL. In fact in the beginning there is a scene where Lee is just showing up at work and he is entering the bullpen. You see the Q bureau in ALLA. So now I think I am completely on board with Morley's order. Glad we will be doing it that way.
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Post by iwsod on Jan 15, 2014 22:55:41 GMT
Hi guys... I have a confession to make of sorts. I'm going to watch all of these five season 3 episodes!! I am skipping over the story content of the episodes and just looking at Lee and Amanda.. trying to get a picture in my head of what could be going on- so I have some kind of framework to hang my blog posts on when I write about them - it's a crazy time in the show so I think I really need it. I won't write about what's ahead though still. and this doesn't mean I can't change my mind I am not looking to draw a final conclusion at all the episodes will still be fresh I think! I'm wondering about Mr Brand and then Over the Limit.. Lee seems to start the episode troubled - which doesn't really flow on from the end of Mr Brand. Does it work better after Weasel? could the happenings of that ep have given Lee food for thought? I am sure wizard would have - I like the idea of wizard then Over the limit because it confronts Lee with all his womanising ways... but I see Lee is already in the Q bureau by then so Weasel had to come before Wizard.. anyone? or do we just put it down to duh duh duhhhhhhhh - Leslie! ?
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Post by iwsod on Jan 20, 2014 22:18:24 GMT
Just thought I'd mention.. I got through Weasel and thought - naahhhh I won't watch anymore I'll wait!!! I think Over the limit was the big one I had to see again to have any idea of what to do..
Don't mind me.. I am all happy with Morley's order again! bye!
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Post by valerie on Jan 24, 2014 2:20:29 GMT
Iwsod, I feel your pain. I hadn't seen any of the show in so long that when I started watching on Amazon Prime I just watched them in the production order I had originally seen them in. But once I got the DVDs, found a few websites and found your blog I went back. Trying to figure out some of the order is like all kinds of crazy. But either way it will definitely generate a lot of discussions. We know there is a progression and the closer Lee and Amanda become it gets interesting trying to figure out just when some of the transitions occur. We'll continue to enjoy our strolling.
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Post by morley on Feb 21, 2014 12:43:40 GMT
Hello everybody! I am going to be an episode order pain in the neck again. I was rearing the last post for VM and then followed the link to where IWSOD posted the blogging order for season 3. Obviously I like the order she posted for the first 5 and for the most part I agree that the majority of season 3 episode proceed in the original order...but, there are a few exceptions for me. I think UN should come before Sour Grapes and at the end of the season I think the order needs a bit of revamping as well but that is a long way off. I think things go according to original order until Wrong Number, after hat I think a few things need switching up, actually I think I follow Petra's order for that. I just wanted to put my ideas out there so that when we get to that point the ideas were somewhere. Iwsod, you should (and I know you will) do as you think best
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